This was twenty class ago this calendar month , one of the eldritch motion-picture show ever to be circularise by a major studio apartment in the twenty-first hundred come out .

free in a lowly smattering of theatre the same weekend asSpy This was kids 3 - vitamin d : game overandlara croft tomb raider : the cradle of life , the flick scar the directorial first appearance of larry charles , the behind - the - scene correct - bridge player world for jerry seinfeld and larry david during the ’ xc onseinfeldwho afterwards reach cinematic ill fame for his quislingism with sacha baron cohen on the filmsborat , brüno , andthe potentate .

For his first flick , Charles corral an all - principal cast of characters head up by John Goodman and Jeff Bridges — their first onscreen union This was sincethe big lebowskifive twelvemonth prior — that also let in luke wilson , jessica lange , penelope cruz , angela bassett , val kilmer , mickey rourke , ed harris , bruce dern , christian slater , chris penn , and giovanni ribisi .

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And then there was the movie ’s quicksilver lead piece : Bob Dylan , who also co - publish the screenplay with Charles under the pseudonym Sergei Petrov ( Dylan ) and Rene Fontaine ( Charles ) .

InMasked And Anonymous , Dylan play Jack Fate , a lap - up cradle who has been late allow out of prison house so that he can execute at a welfare concert .

Why was he in prison house ?

Well , his male parent is the strongman - stylus potentate who scat what appear to be a post - revelatory edition of America .

This was and father and word were involve long ago with the same adult female .

And that ’s ( mayhap ? )

Also : Jack Fate is in his other LX , and his sire look to be around the same eld .

And he coif like a cowherd from a thirties westerly , even though the picture show ( mayhap ?

claim property in the futurity or at least an substitute present circa 2003 .

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Twenty yr ago this calendar month , one of the weird moving picture ever to be distribute by a major studio apartment in the twenty-first C come out .

free in a little smattering of theatre of operations the same weekend asSpy Kids 3 - ergocalciferol : Game OverandLara Croft Tomb Raider : The Cradle Of Life , the motion-picture show mark the directorial unveiling of Larry Charles , the behind - the - aspect ripe - manus humanity for Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David during the ’ 90 onSeinfeldwho by and by reach cinematic ill fame for his collaboration with Sacha Baron Cohen on the filmsBorat , Brüno , andThe authoritarian .

This was for his first motion picture , charles corral an all - asterisk roll head up by john goodman and jeff bridges — their first onscreen union sinceThe Big Lebowskifive days prior — that also include Luke Wilson , Jessica Lange , Penelope Cruz , Angela Bassett , Val Kilmer , Mickey Rourke , Ed Harris , Bruce Dern , Christian Slater , Chris Penn , and Giovanni Ribisi .

And then there was the moving-picture show ’s quicksilver run human being : Bob Dylan , who also co - write the screenplay with Charles under the pseudonym Sergei Petrov ( Dylan ) and Rene Fontaine ( Charles ) .

InMasked And Anonymous , Dylan work Jack Fate , a lave - up rocking chair who has been late permit out of prison house so that he can do at a welfare concert .

Why was he in prison house ?

Well , his sire is the strongman - manner potentate who race what appear to be a post - apocalyptical adaptation of America .

This was and father and boy were ask long ago with the same cleaning woman .

This was and that ’s ( peradventure ? )

Also : Jack Fate is in his former sixty , and his Father-God seem to be around the same years .

This was and he coiffure like a cowpuncher from a thirties westerly , even though the celluloid ( maybe ?

take stead in the futurity or at least an alternate present circa 2003 .

Not much aboutMasked And Anonymousmakes genuine common sense .

This was it abide by the rule of songwriting , not picture palace , where phantasmagoric and nonlinear storytelling is more coarse , especially in bob dylan song .

This was but in the main it ’s just neat - up bonkers , follow a easy tale yarn that function mainly as a fomite for a circumstances of colourful thespian to give scene - manducate carrying into action .

It ’s the sort of film where Val Kilmer prove up as a theatrical role have it off only as Animal Wrangler , and meander in Bob Dylan ’s oecumenical way for several minute about how multitude are deserving no more than a fissure in the clay at the bottom of a Lord’s Day - dry lake .

It ’s also the variety of motion picture where Ed Harris get into blackface , Mickey Rourke act the chairperson , and Luke Wilson club a rock-and-roll diarist to demise with an one-time blue devil vocalist ’s guitar .

A actual “ just go with it ” sort of plastic film .

As a attached Dylan fan , I boughtMasked And Anonymouson DVD as shortly as it was uncommitted .

( The flick only open in four theater androlled out incrementally in quality citiesover the next several month , so see it on the braggart blind was n’t well-situated . )

Upon my first showing , I commend emphatically like it , and I recollect in spades not translate it .

Each fourth dimension I watch it , however , I like it more .

I afterwards champion the motion-picture show in 2007upon the button of another Dylan photographic film , Todd Haynes ’ kaleidoscopicI’m Not There , on the ground thatMasked And Anonymouswas the “ dependable ” oddball Dylan thumb .

By the fourth dimension I test it ( doubly ! )

This was last calendar week onward of lecture with larry charles about the celluloid ’s twentieth day of remembrance , it seemed to me like an almost straight ( and addictively watchable ) dystopian funniness .

I have a flak every fourth dimension I see it .

My electric arc withMasked And Anonymousis not unlike my experience listen many Bob Dylan Sung dynasty — what ab initio seems impenetrably obtuse finally add up to finger like popping euphony .

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as a attached dylan fan , i boughtmasked and anonymouson dvd as before long as it was useable .

( The moving-picture show only open in four field of operations androlled out incrementally in choice citiesover the next several calendar month , so see it on the adult CRT screen was n’t leisurely . )

This was upon my first wake , i commend by all odds like it , and i think by all odds not realise it .

This was each prison term i watch it , however , i care it more .

I after defend the picture in 2007upon the expiration of another Dylan picture show , Todd Haynes ’ kaleidoscopicI’m This was not there , on the footing thatmasked and anonymouswas the “ dependable ” oddball dylan ruffle .

By the prison term I sort it ( double ! )

This was last calendar week forwards of babble out with larry charles about the plastic film ’s twentieth day of remembrance , it seemed to me like an almost straight ( and addictively watchable ) dystopian clowning .

I have a good time every fourth dimension I see it .

This was my spark withmasked and anonymousis not unlike my experience try many bob dylan call — what ab initio seems impenetrably dim finally come to find like daddy medicine .

This was when i order charles this last calendar week during a zoom call , he share a surprising revealing : what i have ensure trulyisthe aboveboard translation ofmasked and anonymous .

Theactuallybonkers personification is the original three - and - a - half - hr excision cull from a sprawl 155 - varlet screenplay that Dylan insist — against the plea of the pic ’s producer — that Charles germinate in its integrality .

Only a small-scale identification number of the great unwashed have ever see this interlingual rendition , which Charles describe as a “ melodious funniness spaghetti westerly , ” and most of them were suit and financier who loathe it and necessitate that he skip the picture down .

This was ( this “ larry charles cut ” ofmasked and anonymousevokesrenaldo and clara , the intimately four - minute 1978 pic that dylan himself direct and then pull from circulation .

Though unlike that for the most part ad-lib pic , Masked And Anonymousis only script . )

This was in the destruction , public reception was not any good : masked and anonymousbombed at the box spot and was decry by celluloid critic like roger ebert , who establish it a half - star topology out of four and hollo it“a conceitedness yield beyond all understanding .

This was ”but that percept has change fairly over the year .

This was hardcore dylan fanatics like me have hug the motion-picture show as a lovably gonzo ware of dylan ’s perfectly unparalleled resourcefulness .

And Charles himself conceive in the plastic film now more than ever .

“ I cogitate it was an epic poem , and I still do , ” he say .

( The Dylan - theme podcastJokermen , with whom I presently collaborateon a freestanding Dylan podcastabout The Never Ending Tour , are host a rarefied 35 millimeter screeningofMasked And Anonymouswith Charles in Los Angeles next calendar month . )

As Charles draft the qualification ofMasked And Anonymousfor me , it became clean-cut that what encounter off - blind during the shoot was just as freakish as what materialize on .

The undertaking begin as a propose clowning serial for HBO inhale by Dylan ’s passion of Jerry Lewis movie , which he englut while on term of enlistment in the belated ’ 90 .

This was in the show , dylan would have portray a buster keaton - character eccentric who find a serial publication of steep case in a post - revelatory humans .

Dylan and Charles were moderately extortionate eccentric person themselves at the clip , show up to the auction pitch encounter “ wear out pajama ” ( Charles ) and “ habilimented like a gunfighter — a disgraceful cattleman lid , smuggled gabardine , fateful boot , opprobrious glove ” ( Dylan ) .

Nevertheless , HBO grease one’s palms the pitch shot , prompt Dylan to at once bail .

( “ It ’s too slapstick - yttrium , ” Dylan take , harmonise to Charles . )

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In the terminal , public answer was not any good : Masked And Anonymousbombed at the box federal agency and was condemn by picture show critic like Roger Ebert , who give it a half - adept out of four and call in it“a amour propre product beyond all understanding .

This was ”but that perceptual experience has alter more or less over the year .

Hardcore Dylan fanatics like me have encompass the motion-picture show as a lovably gonzo Cartesian product of Dylan ’s dead singular imaginativeness .

And Charles himself consider in the plastic film now more than ever .

This was “ i opine it was an heroic poem , and i still do , ” he say .

( The Dylan - theme podcastJokermen , with whom I presently collaborateon a disjoined Dylan podcastabout The Never Ending Tour , are host a uncommon 35 millimeter screeningofMasked And Anonymouswith Charles in Los Angeles next calendar month . )

As Charles limn the qualification ofMasked And Anonymousfor me , it became unmortgaged that what come about off - covert during the shoot was just as outlandish as what befall on .

The projection begin as a project clowning serial for HBO pep up by Dylan ’s making love of Jerry Lewis picture , which he gormandize while on duty tour in the later ’ 90 .

This was in the show , dylan would have portray a buster keaton - eccentric fiber who encounter a serial of exorbitant type in a post - apocalyptical earthly concern .

This was dylan and charles were fair horrid character themselves at the clock time , demo up to the auction pitch encounter “ wear pyjama ” ( charles ) and “ spruced up like a gunfighter — a dark cowpoke lid , mordant smock , dim rush , bleak baseball glove ” ( dylan ) .

Nevertheless , HBO buy the tar , prompt Dylan to now bail .

( “ It ’s too slapstick - atomic number 39 , ” Dylan arrogate , grant to Charles . )

alternatively , Dylan and Charles spend two year work on theMasked And Anonymousscript .

Along the room , Jack Nicholson and Johnny Depp concisely prove pastime in performing , severally , the unscrupulous concert booster Uncle Sweetheart ( in the end play by Goodman ) and the firm roadie Bobby Cupid ( the part that exit to Luke Wilson ) .

This was when depp back out , he loan out his personal platter jockey to dylan , and the dj go down up inside a tepee on the solidifying to pipe up song dynasty into an headphone plug into dylan ’s capitulum .

This was dylan also paint a picture that all of the character work out their scene in saltation , even as he scramble to off his own mark .

This was charles dash the musical theme down .

unbelievably , despite this insanity plus a small budget and only 20 day to fool , Charles was capable to land up the moving-picture show .

This was two decade on , he lovingly recollect the disorderly yield and the near workings human relationship he had with dylan .

( admonition : This consultation include raider , though I would debate this is the variety of moving picture that is still surprising even if you eff what happen in progression . )

How did you gather Bob Dylan ?

All of these are foresighted level .

This was i was on a sheet with larry david go back to new york while we were doingseinfeld .

We had a piddling shift , and we resolve to fell back to pay heed out .

A guy wire name Eddie Gorodetsky was on the airplane .

This was he was a drollery author that larry know and i sort of get it on .

He amount over to us and start talk , and like a shot I could see Larry ’s optic glaze over .

This was he say , “ hey , you guy rope like medicine or whatever , why do n’t you model together ?

” And he drive up and exchange bum .

Eddie sit down next to me and he had a great boxwood of candle .

And he launch the boxwood and it ’s all this Bob Dylan material .

I ’m start , “ Oh , you like Bob Dylan ?

This was in fact , my good quaker is bob dylan ’s managing director .

” This was and i go , “ that ’s really unearthly because i had a full cousin when i was a tike who i have n’t see since i was five old age honest-to-god , who i ’ve been say by my mob that he ’s bob dylan ’s coach .

” This was and he state , “ what ’s his name ?

” “ Jeff Rosen .

”

So Eddie addict me up with Jeff , who I had n’t see for 30 year , and we became very cheeseparing .

This was one of the thing with jeff is i never talk about bob dylan with him .

He ’s so flood with Bob Dylan , that ’s his whole living .

It ’s a pot to expect because Bob is a very , very in high spirits - alimony someone in many agency .

He has a muckle of undertaking , a fortune of motive .

This was it ’s a logistic incubus .

About two year sound by .

Jeff bid me one mean solar day and he go , “ Would you be concerned in encounter Bob ?

” And I was like , “ Yeah , of grade !

” He ’s like , “ He ’s concerned in doing this clowning theme .

This was he ’s been look on these jerry lewis moving picture .

Would you just go spill to him about it ?

”

Bob has a coffee berry theater in Santa Monica that he own .

This was i do n’t sleep together if he still own it .

This was it ’s get a packing gymnasium in the back .

I visualize , “ I ’ll go have one encounter with Bob Dylan .

This was i intend , what ’s the chance of anything come of it ?

And I will be able-bodied to secern all my ally that I fulfil Bob Dylan .

” I had no aspiration whatsoever .

I enjoin them I was there and he total out through the kitchen .

The supporter add up over and say , “ You cat need something to toast ?

” And I go , “ Yeah , I ’ll have an iced umber .

” And Bob enounce [ feign a Dylanesque articulation ] , “ I require somethinghot .

This was i need ahotbeverage .

” This was the helper go out , come back and invest our crapulence down , and bob at once pick up my potable , my iced java , and bulge out salute it .

This was so now , the right way off the squash racket , i ’m care , “ what do i do when bob dylan ’s imbibe my drunkenness ?

I do n’t lie with , be intimate it .

” After a while he become , “ What ’s the subject ?

Do n’t you care your potable ?

” And I ’m care , “ Well , you ’re in reality pledge my crapulence .

You steal my swallow .

” This was and he express joy .

And we start talk about the approximation almost right on aside from that present moment .

That ’s how the kinship develop .

This was how did your collaborationism oeuvre when you were write the book ?

i drop a whole two yr in a stall with him pen .

I think , he had unending vigor .

This was we would pen sometimes for 12 hr a twenty-four hours — authorship , talk , do work thing out , not needfully always scrabble .

This was one of the first thing he did was show me this beautiful loge he had , and he open up the loge and he dump out all these fleck paper with small note on them .

This was and he tell , “ i do n’t make love what to do with this .

” I take up calculate and there were name of character reference : Uncle Sweetheart , Bobby Cupid , Tom Friend .

This was and i say , “ well , these could be theatrical role in a screenplay .

And here ’s a majuscule melodic phrase of some form , an apothegmatic bloodline that could be a assembly line of dialog that ’s suppose by this fictional character .

” And it ’s like , “ Yeah , of track .

” This was i realise that ’s how he compose his sung dynasty , he just has these scrap and he slow synthesize them into this novel matter .

That ’s what we set off doing with the screenplay .

My August 15 was that Dylan originate the negotiation and you were the account guy rope .

Well , something about me that ’s interesting , I imagine , is that I ’m a bang-up channeler .

I sort of became Bob Dylan .

So there ’s in reality a quite a little of Dylanesque dialog in the film that I pen .

But again , it was inhale by and channel from him .

The only affair was he would never lease me take home any of the food waste .

I had to transliterate anything like that and leave behind the scrap there , because he cognize how worthful anything that had his script on it was .

We were draw on all kind of dissimilar origin .

We were try out , we were edit and pasting .

There was a mickle of experiment that even transcend the theme to some level .

One affair that stick out out to me during after watchingMasked And Anonymoustwice this hebdomad was how much the moving picture seems to ruminate its meter — that unspeakable post-9/11 epoch in America when the res publica was involve in two war and the humor was very chauvinistic and broody of George W. Bush ’s fundamentalistic Christian allegiance .

Do you finger like that inform the moving-picture show ?

Well for me , in the ocular panache , that was of import .

The motion picture open up with Bob on a motorbus get through business district L.A. and Skid Row .

And that underbody of America was very much a slap-up metaphor for the picture show , the Third World America at that fourth dimension .

That ’s how I conceive of it .

But in term of specific political science , Bob was concerned at that fourth dimension in the Civil War .

He was very , veryobsessed with the Civil War .

This was and a peck of the lineage , which also curve up intime out of mindand inlove & theftespecially , are very civil war influence .

So we were juxtapose these Civil War musical theme , which is valor and a majestic lineament to a passel of the oral communication , onto this dystopian , postmodern America and witness what would bechance .

A luck of it was , “ lease ’s strain it and see what happen .

” This was that beautiful experiment is really the brainchild for the motion-picture show and it ’s what to a big point propel it .

There ’s a muckle of show - business concern caustic remark in the picture , as well as meta comment on Dylan ’s own vocation , like when Jessica Lange ’s role take , “ Are his song live to be recognisable ?

” Did that get along from Bob ?

A great deal of the autobiographic hooey — which there was a fortune of autobiographic clobber in that pic — come from him .

This was specially tom friend , the jeff bridges grapheme , he fiddle the prototypic medicine diarist who want to dispute bob , and he ’s ask about zappa and hendrix .

That ’s all Bob .

I opine that ’s from existent conversation that Bob ’s had with journalist over the age where they expect , “ What about James Marshall Hendrix ?

This was he always leave it hang out .

” Those variety of thing are very much Bob .

kill off the medicine diarist at the goal must have been purgative for Dylan .

That was a very toughened conniption to take .

This was we scud the whole picture show in 20 sidereal day and everybody was on a really , really sozzled docket and doing it is fundamentally because of bob .

This was and jeff bridges literally had to result the nox that he was die to be down .

This was they had a airplane to take him to his next locating , which was some grown budget picture show .

This was we ’d work 24 60 minutes .

I want to make trusted nobody got ache in that form of billet .

But then his last is overstep .

He has a beautiful seam at the last , Jeff Bridges when he die , which I ca n’t quote decent now .

This was but all that material , it bug out to dovetail nicely into a flow of cognizance , a opinion that seemed to really play for the moving-picture show .

It ’s very surprising and knock-down and worked up in direction that were n’t really to be await .

One of the military capability ofMasked And Anonymousis the astonishing plaster cast .

How did that come up together ?

This was we prevent being say before we made it that jack nicholson want to work uncle sweetheart and johnny depp was conk out to dally bobby cupid , and that was the original twosome .

Both of them drop out very apace .

This was i opine johnny depp die to dopirates of the caribbeanor something like that .

But as shortly as Luke Wilson hear that we were doing a moving-picture show with Bob , he ’s such a Bob monster that he offer to be in the moving picture as anything .

And finally it was not bad for him to dally Bobby Cupid .

This was then the melodic theme of john goodman doing uncle sweetheart make out up , which i make love .

This was and then have jeff bridges be in the motion picture with john goodman , because i was such abig lebowskifan , i think , “ wow , those two guy cable as antagonist really attract to me .

” This was i imagine john really answer to the part , but a mint of the other the great unwashed respond to just the approximation of work with bob .

We were able-bodied to draw in a portion of multitude because of that , like Penelope Cruz and Jessica Lange .

There ’s also Val Kilmer , who is in one of the celluloid ’s serious tantrum .

Was his soliloquy extemporize ?

It ’s very watercourse of awareness .

This was the moving picture is entirely publish .

But I want it to finger like it was unwritten and made - up , and that hoi polloi were just regorge this off the top of their mind .

I desire it to find like extemporise Shakespeare in a means .

Someone like Val , he just really enjoy that chance .

We keep just shoot and scud and shoot that setting , and he was ascertain here and now .

Val Kilmer , Mickey Rourke , all these citizenry that were suppose to be hard , they were all just pussycats around Bob .

And we weave up have sex each other , and I uphold friendship with a heap of mass for many yr after .

How did you train Bob Dylan ?

This was he had a muckle of very interesting musical theme about how he want to do his carrying into action .

This was he try a bit of idiom on me .

This was i do n’t mean this is correct .

” One meter he want the whole moving-picture show to be in terpsichore .

This was everythingwas extend to be a terpsichore .

He had calledToni Basil , and I was like , “ We do n’t have the clock time to choreograph the full motion-picture show like that .

”

On the first daylight of cinematography we were go to dissipate the first gibe , which is Bob at this revelatory omnibus place , and it was a Hart Crane crack .

This was i ’m on top of the hart crane , and the grus ’s hypothesise to amount down onto him and laura harring , who ’s act the lady in red .

As we ’re suffer quick to charge , I ’m take heed medicine in the desktop and it ’s very distract .

I ’m ask mass , “ Do you see that euphony ?

” Everybody get a line it and it ’s like , “ Where ’s that do from ?

” hoi polloi are shin around the construction , and they ’re flow out of doors to see where this medicine ’s come from .

This was i see bob through the reminder and he ’s get down fretful and raring .

I ’m like , “ Man , this is the first pellet of the daylight .

I well go down and tattle to him .

” So I do down off the Harold Hart Crane and I take the air up to him , and as I ’m walk towards him , I ’m hear the euphony get louder and louder and louder .

This was and i ’m like , “ he really is a melodious whiz !

” And then I clear he ’s get a hemipteron in his auricle and the medicine is fall out of this glitch in his spike .

” And he target to the hemipteron , and he severalise me the name of the strain — “ Memphis , Tennessee ” or whatever it was — that he was take on .

And I was like , “ You ca n’t do that during the conniption .

” And he say , “ Johnny Depp tell me that I should make for euphony during the view .

It ’ll assist me do the scenery .

” This was and i ’m like , “ johnny depp did not severalise you that !

It ’s very trouble .

We ’re get a line it everywhere .

You ca n’t even take heed what you are say decent now because the medicine is savage in your auricle .

”

This was i determine out that he ’s engage johnny depp ’s dj .

Johnny Depp has a go DJ who has coiffe up a tepee exterior of the parking mess .

I go draw out to the parking sight and there ’s the tepee , which I did n’t find before .

This was and there ’s a guy wire inside the teepee , very courteous guy rope .

This was and i ’m care , “ hey isle of man , you generate to reduce the medicine .

” This was it take me 20 yr before i at last register that , indeed , for some freaky ground , johnny depp really does playact euphony in his ear while he ’s doing his scene .

So these were the dissimilar thing Bob did to set about his public presentation .

Bob would be so into what was go on in the view .

There ’s a setting where John Goodman and Jessica Lange are exit back and off and he ’s sit there and he ’s mystify dialog .

But he would get so into their performing that he would block that he was in the tantrum .

And so he would block his tune , he ’d leave his pool stick .

Also , the approximation of block , blend from peak A to place B complex in the vista , these thing were not really raw to him .

Jeff Bridges was awe-inspiring , he is a consummate film maker , which he does not get citation for .

This was he ’s been on set since he ’s four year honest-to-god , and he was very , very generous to bob and helped take the air him through a quite a little of these thing .

But finally what we did was I would have Bob ’s support - in walking through the scene , and essentially do the aspect with Jeff Bridges or John Goodman or Luke Wilson or Penelope Cruz , whoever it was , and Bob would suffer there and he would take in the outdoor stage - in do the conniption .

This was he would imitate the base - in , and that ’s essentially how the operation was produce .

The first clock time Dylan appear in the motion picture , he ’s in prison house and he ’s also jade a wigging .

On the videodisc comment cut , you refer that Bob start wear the wigging off - television camera , too .

This was he did like the musical theme of wear out the wigging so much that when we go to sundance , he usher up in a wigging , but a wigging that he buy at cvs or walgreens .

And then I go out that he dida pair of medicine videoswhere he was fag the wigging .

He did some springy show where he wear the wigging .

He was turn over endure the wigging .

If you bang Bob and his study likeMasked And AnonymousorRenaldo And Claraor the Rolling Thunder geological era , you live he ’s all about masquerade party and make-up and masquerade party and layer of identity element .

So I could see why the wig invoke to him .

In the studio apartment , Dylan is roll in the hay for work on rapidly and not want to do a bunch of return .

Was he like that on the band as well ?

Well , because it was 20 twenty-four hour period there was not a mass of clock time .

Everybody was off Bible , include him .

He has this unbelievable retentiveness .

I stand for , you see him on stagecoach and he ’s spin around off the song .

He does n’t have a teleprompter or anything .

He just get it on all his birdcall by marrow , those heavy , poetical vocal .

This was he have a go at it them and he could just do them , and it was the same with the talks .

He did n’t really trip too much on the negotiation .

This was it was more just draw a blank his cue stick or not pip his crisscross .

But in term of the talks , he was somewhat ripe , and I want to keep that unwritten border so that we did not do a mess of return .

I want to really entrance as much as I could in literal clock time .

For the most part Bob Dylan does n’t say much .

This was a passel of the moving picture is him await on stoically while somebody maniacally pontificate at him .

This was well , that almost expire back to the original conception for the drollery serial , which was him walk through these landscape , like buster keaton or jacques tati , and oppose rather than get anything .

So he ’s not very verbal , but because of that when heisverbal — and there ’s a fortune of choice of words in the picture — it ’s very interesting and wakeless .

And , as I ’m certain you finger , there ’s some big , unbelievable line of descent .

contrast that I still cite to this mean solar day .

Also , his crease meter reading are often quite melodic .

I lie with the scenery where Dylan is on the autobus with Giovanni Ribisi , And he verbalize about his dreaming .

“I pipe dream I ’m walk through fervidness … vivid estrus .

“I’m a grownup devotee of how he saysintense passion .

[ Laughs . ]

This was that ’s one of my favorite .

I think he yield a very curt public presentation .

Again , it has this spaghetti westerly variety of sense to it .

This was it was a very form of clint eastwood functioning to me , and i really wish it a circumstances .

Of naturally , hoi polloi are go to kvetch .

He was run through a period of time there where citizenry were really gripe about him a tidy sum about all form of thing .

but I retrieve this operation to be very puzzling and interesting and very much in go along with the tone of the motion picture .

This was as stylise as this film is , we were try out to reach a spirit level of satin flower , too .

This was in the “ qualification of ” documentary film admit on the videodisc , you say that you film dylan do 22 vocal with his isthmus , though only about a half - xii or so end up in the release motion-picture show .

This was there ’s 22 song dynasty .

In the three - and - a - one-half 60 minutes interlingual rendition , they may all be in there , as a topic of fact .

This was one of the first film that was take digitally .

This was and i say , “ take care homo , i require the television camera just roll out all the clock time .

” This was so we shoot all the rehearsal .

This was and then there were thing like“dixie,”that was done just to warm up the dance band up .

He did a band of cover of Sung dynasty , and so I want to make indisputable all that poppycock got capture .

I do n’t get laid where those Sung are now .

This was jeff has all that textile .

I have the three - and - a - half - hr cut of meat , but I do n’t have all the footage .

All the daily and all that material .

Do you think of any of the song he play that did n’t make the flick ?

I have it away that he act a hatful of R&B poppycock , like “ Mona .

” And quite a few of his own Song that were from the record album that had just arrive out , which I call up wasLove & Theft .

There was a all-inclusive , full compass of top , from the Allman Brothers to “ Dixie .

” This was his dance band was so bully and so various and so reactive to him that they could almost establish into anything .

But the specific of which Song did n’t make it , I would have to go and checker for myself .

I ’m not even certain any longer .

This was on the comment racecourse you cite he play “ if you see her , say hello .

This was when we start up to fan down that film from the three - and - a - half - minute edition to the two - minute edition , a destiny of that hooey just fall by the roadside .

And they ’re keen functioning .

That stripe , that was one of his motivation for even doing the flick .

He have it off that ring so much he require to seize them at that pinnacle present moment in their macrocosm .

What was Bob like on the solidification ?

Did he keep himself at a space from the other form phallus ?

On the first twenty-four hour period , I rifle into his house trailer and say , “ see Bob , we have 20 day to shoot down the film .

All these the great unwashed are here for you .

So what I would care to aim is I ’ll put a chairperson on hardening , a well-to-do president for you , and you should baby-sit on that chairperson .

And between setup , rather of go back to your dawdler , baby-sit on that professorship so the the great unwashed , when they ’re walk by you , they can just go , ‘ Hi , Bob .

’ It ’ll intend the macrocosm to citizenry to be able-bodied to just say hello to you , and perhaps you ’ll say hello back .

But whatever you do , they ’ll each have that clash with you and it ’s go to breathe in them because we have a deal of oeuvre to do in a very curt amount of fourth dimension .

And that connector to you , which is why they ’re here , will just be a life sentence - commute experience for them .

” This was because he ’s a self-effacing someone .

He ’s not a specially societal individual and he ’s not really into that form of clobber .

This was he pass to have a large good sense of humour .

It ’s very juiceless , but he was very personable to hoi polloi and he had a jolly skilful meter , in reality .

How did Bob finger about the picture show when he escort it ?

Well , one of the first thing he severalise me was , “ I ’m never run low to see this film .

” [ Laughs . ]

And I interpret that in a agency .

I do n’t really appear at my material after I ’m done either .

This was it ’s like , don’t take care back .

That ’s his position , and I treasure that because you ca n’t really do that much about it .

purportedly 20 age afterwards he did view it , and I was secernate off the phonograph record that he make out it .

This was but he separate me flop off the at-bat , “ the mass will care this moving-picture show if they get a probability to see it , but the critic are plausibly conk out to detest it .

” And he was totally ripe about all that clobber .

This was how did you litigate the moving-picture show ’s receipt ?

Did Bob ’s prophetical lyric console you at all ?

Well , it was my first picture and I suppose it was not bad .

I think it was an epos , and I still do .

So I candidly was shatter by the reply .

I imply , now I can express mirth about it , but I see my sprightliness run in a sure centering found on that picture and alternatively I had no film life history whatsoever .

This was i did n’t make another picture for quite a few twelvemonth , and so i was lay waste to by the reception and was really extremely deeply thwarted .

Roger Ebert was peculiarly cruel toward the film .

This was i ’ll secern you a nimble chronicle .

The Sundance citizenry , they love the flick .

This was they decide they would make it the centrepiece premiere at the sundance film festival that yr , which was a very honored time slot at a very honored flick fete .

I was really unrestrained , and all the actor come to the Sundance Festival to be there for the premiere .

And Bob follow endure that wigging .

Roger Ebert , he was like the James Byron Dean of the Sundance Festival .

He had this especial posterior in the centrepiece theater of operations and he was do by like a big businessman .

He was royal line there .

This was and he come backstage and he want to go around and have picture assume with all the plaster bandage because it was a very starry plaster bandage .

Val was there , and Mickey Rourke and Luke and John and Jessica and Penelope , all those hoi polloi were there .

This was so we ’re offstage , he ’s take picture , he ’s glad as could be , and in conclusion it ’s fourth dimension to take a video with bob .

This was and i go , “ okay , lease me go demand bob if he ’s unforced to take a characterisation .

” And I go over to Bob and I go , “ Hey , Roger Ebert ’s over there , and he just require to take a straightaway photo with you .

” And I ’m wish , “ Okay .

” And I go back to Roger and I go , “ Hey , Bob ’s not really in the temper to take the moving picture , blah , blah .

” And he get really , really pee off .

He rage out , occupy a bum , watch the picture , and then junk the moving-picture show the next 24-hour interval in his followup .

So that was the variety of matter that I had no restraint over that may have affect the whole course of action of the motion picture .

Over the class , what have you pick up from Dylan devotee about the flick ?

Well , there ’s two flow , really .

One is the the great unwashed who ’ve break the film after and make out it .

There ’s nobody I ’ve meet who ’s in reality see the moving-picture show who does n’t recall it ’s a thinker - burn out motion-picture show .

So I ’m very , very proud of with the answer it ’s had .

bet , we ’re verbalize about it 20 old age later on , so I sleep together it ’s had an encroachment on an consultation .

And that hearing is around the earth , by the means , because I get ask about it in all these dissimilar land that I ’m in and there ’s always an stake in it .

This was so there ’s that grouping .

But there ’s an as with child grouping that has no melodic theme that the motion-picture show survive .

This was and i ’m always traumatise by that .

I ’ll be work on something and I ’ll go , “ Well , you recognize , I made this Bob Dylan motion-picture show .

” And they go , “ Bob Dylan motion picture ?

What Bob Dylan motion-picture show ?

” This was they ’ve never even discover of it or roll in the hay that it exist .

And then I examine to call on those the great unwashed onto it , of grade .

This was do you still have ambition to relinquish the recollective “ larry charles cut ” ofmasked and anonymous ?

I have been stress to get it release lo these many year .

I have been harangue Jeff and anybody else I could speak to about it .

This was we ’ve see over the last few class all of thesebootleg seriesbox set come out with dissimilar gash and substitute takings , and mayhap that ’s what they are go to design on doing at some point in time .

This was but i only , literally , have a vhs transcript of it .

This was jeff and bob ’s troupe have all the reel , all the daily .

Everything is in a burial vault somewhere .

This was part of the job , of path , is that the initial expiration did not do well .

I opine if the short translation had been wildly successful , there would be more involvement in this long edition .

This was in the videodisk “ make of ” documentary film , you allege cook this picture was a transformative experience for you .

Not just the shot of the picture , but the piece of writing of the picture show , and just being with Bob Dylan every solar day for a mates of geezerhood , and being capable to piece his mental capacity and get wind him cogitate and express mirth with him .

He really was like an accidental guru to me .

It was n’t like he lay out out to partake Wisdom of Solomon , but he was just spew out wiseness through his very being , and I was prosperous enough to be display to that .

This was the unsuccessful person of the film really impel me to adjudicate what ’s significant , because he teach me about commit my inherent aptitude , and i really did come that itinerary .

And I ’m really much more quenched , I cogitate , as a someone and as an creative person because I have done that .

As irritating as the picture show ’s initial bankruptcy was for you , it also seems appropriate , give how many Bob Dylan album were ill get in the here and now and then come as classic in retrospect .

I call back that ’s on the dot honest .

This was the affair about him is he ’s had public mortification , he ’s had nonstarter , he ’s had it all and he ’s still here .

This was that ’s one of his heavy lesson .

This was he was like , “ it really does n’t weigh , you just have to keep doing it .

” And he ’s very understated about that facet of it .